Cross Processing Super 8

[Supa-eight]

I have recently heard about a strange deveopment process. I believe you shoot reversal film and process it for negative developing; or vise versa? Something happens to the finial image, like color saturation and contrast build, I think. Who knows this process and what happens to what kind of film? Can we do this and project reversal Super 8, or transfered negative to video? What are the image effects?

Thanks for your input.

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[Matt Pacini]

I've been curious about this myself.
I've read about it for years, being used in certain feature films, but I've only heard about doing it with neg originals.

Matt Pacini

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[mattias]

> I have recently heard about a strange deveopment process.

it's actually a lot less strange than the reversal process. basically it's the reversal process without the second half -- the reversal. ;-)

> I've read about it for years, being used in certain feature films, but I've only heard about doing it with neg originals.

you probably misunderstood. my guess is you're thinking of skip bleach/enr, which gives a similar effect? cross processing is almost always done with reversal, and doing it with negative will yield different results altogether, and you'll get the orange mask to cope with on your reversal result. not recommended for anything other than hip fashion photography.

anyway, you should all buy a roll of e6 slide film, shoot it at one stop over, have basically any still photo lab cross process it for you and take a look at the result. it sure can be amazing. make sure you tell them you want your *e6* film *cross processed* in *c-41*, and go someplace else if they don't understand what you're saying right away. if they do understand, they will ask if you want prints. you do. good luck.

/matt

[Nigel]

You can cross process color reversal. However you can't cross process Kodachrome. The color rendering would be off and you would have to Xfer your film via RANK and then create a Posi on the tape to get the results that I think you are after. It does work, but I do think you need to figure out which process it is that you are thinking of. Good Luck

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[Supa-eight]

Okay so what people are saying is we can shoot Ektachrome reversal film (like the current kodak stock),which is normally processed "E6" and then either send it to a lab for "C-41" (which is a negative color or black and white process?) and the result will yield a reversal print that is able to project? I am still a little confused. I want to try to process my own film using the G3 tank and the C41 process.

More info please.

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[Basstruc]

I had a week in school with a Kodak engineer on Film Chemistry & apparently ( surely ) you can do negative from any reversal ( except kodachrome ) ,any reversal with negative ,any B&W from color (including kodachrome ) .The results might be shity because films are not calibrated for this ,but anyway ... try .
Matt

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[Basstruc]

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matt

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[Basstruc]

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Matt

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[Supa-eight]

Lots of info, but still no straight answers??? See my last post please.



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[mattias]

> Okay so what people are saying is we can shoot Ektachrome reversal film (like the current kodak stock),which is normally processed "E6" and then either send it to a lab for "C-41"

yes. but this is for stills. ektachrome vnf gets too purple in e6, and the vision stocks can't be processed in c-41, due to the rem-jet backing which needs an extra step to remove. the principle is the same though, and cross processing vnf in the soup made for vision works just fine.

> (which is a negative color or black and white process?)

it's the normal color neg process.

> and the result will yield a reversal print that is able to project?

no, a negative, but without the orange mask.

/matt

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